CrashMan Simulator - Revision history

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|title=CrashMan Simulator
|rank=174th
|image=[[File:MaGMML3-174-CrashManSimulator.png|256px]]
|caption=This is getting out of hand! Now there are ''two'' of them!
|game=''[[Make a Good Mega Man Level 3]]''
|creator=[[boris225]]
|composer=Takashi Tateishi


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|judge1=18
|judge2=10
|judge3=40
|judge4=32
|judge5=20
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|elements=1
|collectables=[[File:TricksterTokenSpade.png]]
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*[[Crash Man]] (x2)
*[[Flash Man]]
|other=25% late penalty.
|music='''Bosses:''' Mega Man 2 - Boss
|location=[[Tier 1 (MaGMML3)|Tier 1]]
|previous=[[X6Meme]]
|next=[[Glitched up Beta]]
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{{quote|Having to lure around Crash Man (or rather Crash MEN) so he's safe to kill later seems like a neat idea, but in practice? It's actually really frustrating to control...|Mick Galbani|judge comment}}

'''CrashMan Simulator''' is the 174th place entry in ''[[Make a Good Mega Man Level 3]]''. The level involves [[Mega Man]] attempting to navigate [[Crash Man]] through an obstacle course to a point later on where Mega Man can deal with him safely.

==Strategy==
The premise of the level is as follows: Press the fire button to get Crash Man to jump toward Mega Man. Mega Man can use this to lure Crash Man (and his doppelganger) to the end of the stage. The floor is rigged to disappear with the destruction of the boss. Meanwhile, an offscreen [[Flash Man]] freezes Mega Man in place periodically. Eventually Mega Man can reach the safety of a ladder, and from there, dispose of the three bosses safely.

However, due to an oversight by the level designer, the floor does not disappear until ''all'' the bosses are destroyed. As a result, it is possible for Mega Man to destroy the two Crash Men with [[Tornado Blow]] and/or [[Spark Chaser]], then to reach the end of the level and safely defeat Flash Man there.

==Judge Comments==
{{JudgeComment3
|mick=Well, this is a familiar-feeling concept, I know I've played it in Mega Man Maker before, multiple times. Having to lure around Crash Man (or rather Crash MEN) so he's safe to kill later seems like a neat idea, but in practice? It's actually really frustrating to control, turning the experience into a chore with how long Crash Man's gauntlet is. Having to lure two at once is just the cherry on top, as they're very rarely synced up. 
 
...But then there's also a Flash Man at the end of the section, and the floor doesn't explode unless you kill all three of them. As a result, you can just use Tornado Blow and Spark Chaser to kill the Crash Men, and then go kill Flash Man to claim the element. I... rather doubt that was the intention, and it breaks the level clean in two. That might be a good thing though, it would've been super annoying otherwise.
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|shin=I get what you're going for here, but...it doesn't work. It really doesn't. 
 
Influencing the movements of a boss to solve a puzzle is a decent idea on paper, but in execution, it leaves a lot to be desired. For as simplistic as this level is, trying to do this the intended way by getting two copies of Crash Man to cooperate with jumps is downright tedious. If you somehow manage to get them to the end, though, you now have the task of dealing with three bosses at the same time. This whole process would be really frustrating...if it weren't so easy to cheat it. The floor doesn't break away until all three bosses are dead, meaning you can just use weapons that can reach the Crash Men from below (like Tornado Blow or Spark Chaser), and then head to the right to deal with Flash Man alone. 
 
While I'm thankful that there's a workaround to the frustration this level could cause...I still can't ignore the fact that this is a glaring oversight that breaks the whole point of the stage. Maybe this could've worked out better if it was split into different segments, along with using different bosses that you had to avoid rather than indirectly control. I'm honestly not really sure what else I could suggest here, other than to get more people to play-test your stage next time. You'd be surprised by how many ways any given level, even the most basic of ones, can be broken.
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|pachy=Clash of Crashes! 
 
Well this was certainly a weird little experience. I find that the concept of manipulating and escorting an enemy through a series of obstacles to be a pretty neat gimmick. As the current stage stands, however, it is kinda more like a proof-of-concept than a fleshed out execution, which is a shame. 
 
At least that's what I think the stage was trying to go for anyways. It actually isn't really clear what good it does for sending the Crash Men to the end. If anything, it makes the end fight more difficult, pinning you against both Flash and Crash at the same time, while they kinda just spawn camp you a lot at the little hole you have to get out of. 
 
I do notice the platform you start on disappears if any of the Crash Men were to be eliminated, so it's kinda an enforcement mechanism in place? It doesn't work, though, as you can just ignore the Crash Men doing their own thing in their chambers and go about your way to the end.
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|flashman=Pardon me, but I believe you're looking for the Make an Experimental Mega Man Maker Level Contest, which is down the hall. 
 
Unconventional escort quest? Actually pretty cool. Blowing up the floor to deter a premature victory? Smart. Communicating the rules to the player up front? Much appreciated. But that's where the questions cease having positive answers, so I'll stop asking them. 
 
Visually, this is the level equivalent of paint swatches from a hardware store--decide which MM2 tileset best fits your simulator room! The Bubble Man section is begging to be animated. A patch of unsightly non-solid tiles sticks around after the floor explodes. Some other music after the bosses are defeated might've been nice. 
 
Thanks to haphazardly arranged architecture (with invisible slopes, no less), navigating Crash Man through the level is a mostly tedious affair, which reaches peak difficulty right before the easiest part. Without any hazards to you or Crash Man, however, the whole exercise is pointless. It's a time-wasting journey that ends in a sloppy boss teamup. 
 
Assuming you play the level as intended, that is. 
 
Contrary to what the typo-ridden text box says, the floor only collapses when you've destroyed all *three* bosses. Among other strategies, you can immediately obliterate Crash Man and his flagrantly accidental doppelganger with Tornado Blow, saunter over to the ladder, and hit Flash Man from the ladder with Magnetic Shockwave--thus completing the easiest damage-free run in the contest. 
 
I do like the idea of needing to traverse Crash Man's path in reverse to get the token, but aside from checking if the invisible wall is still there after the bosses explode, there's nothing to it (aside from saving a smidge of weapon energy to get back out). 
 
Fun concept, dysfunctional execution.
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+* CrashMan Simulator is not the first level of its kind. Several ''Mega Man Maker'' levels revolving around guiding Crash Man (or other bosses such as [[Metal Man]]) through an obstacle course by exploiting their AI have been made in the past; these likely inspired CrashMan Simulator to an extent.
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+==Notes==
 *CrashMan Simulator is not the first level of its kind. Several ''Mega Man Maker'' levels revolving around guiding Crash Man (or other bosses such as [[Metal Man]]) through an obstacle course by exploiting their AI have been made in the past; these likely inspired CrashMan Simulator to an extent.
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 |game=''[[Make a Good Mega Man Level 3]]''
 |creator=[[boris225]]
 |composer=Takashi Tateishi
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 *[[Crash Man]] (x2)
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 |previous=[[X6Meme]]
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 {{quote|Having to lure around Crash Man (or rather Crash MEN) so he's safe to kill later seems like a neat idea, but in practice? It's actually really frustrating to control...|Mick Galbani|judge comment}}
-'''CrashMan Simulator''' is the 174th place entry in ''[[Make a Good Mega Man Level 3]]''. The level involves [[Mega Man]] attempting to navigate [[Crash Man]] through an obstacle course to a point later on where Mega Man can deal with him safely.
+==Strategy==
-==Strategy==
+However, due to an oversight by the level designer, the floor does not disappear until ''all'' the bosses are destroyed. As a result, it is possible for Mega Man to destroy the two Crash Men with a Special Weapon that can reach them (such as [[Tornado Blow]] or [[Spark Chaser]]), then reach the end of the level and safely defeat Flash Man there. He may also choose to ignore the Crash Men, defeat Flash Man first, then enter the obstacle course and fight the Crash Man then.
-However, due to an oversight by the level designer, the floor does not disappear until ''all'' the bosses are destroyed.  As a result, it is possible for Mega Man to destroy the two Crash Men with [[Tornado Blow]] and/or [[Spark Chaser]], then to reach the end of the level and safely defeat Flash Man there.
+A [[Trickster Token]] can be seen within the obstacle course, but Crash Man cannot collect it; instead, Mega Man needs to enter the obstacle course and pick it up himself. Getting it requires using either [[Rush]] or the [[Magnet Beam]] to scale a tall wall.
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