Difference between revisions of "Poorly Named Level"

I appreciate that you built a pretty good level out of the Tornado Man platforms (that I hate with a passion btw), but oh my god. Some of these rooms are. So. Much. Garbage. I HATE the room with the cannon and the two magnet platforms. It's incredibly finicky and almost luck-based (??) to time yourself so that you'll get the right frame of animation to jump to make those ridiculous jumps. And there's spikes everywhere so it's really hard to reposition yourself. I really wanted to beat this level without special weapons but that room just killed me so much and the checkpoint is so far back it's just bkfoipero[wwrp. The other issue I have is the one room with the Piriparee Joes, Biree, and stationary magnet platform. The last jump before the ladder is ridiculously precise and it's really dumb. Other than that, the level was fine, though I was a bit disappointed that the final stretch of the level just kinda dropped the gimmick in favor of enemy challenges. It kinda took a few playthroughs to really 'enjoy' it though, my initial experience with the stage was mainly just getting killed on the first few screens because they're preetty difficult to deal with on a blind playthrough. Overall, the stage has good design ideas, but I don't think it turns out to be very fun mainly because of that one room, that one jump, and some rooms being very overwhelming for first playthroughs.

Thanks for reminding me why I hated Tornado Man's stage. You went ham with those platforms ;-; This level has a very inconsistent difficulty curve. Some sections were cake walks, while others took me several attempts to beat legitimately, and were just insane (Rain + Tornado Man platform section). Not only that, but this level was...annoying. The Tornado Man platforms are very finnicky in this engine, making a lot of jumps come up short (the room with the shield attacker near the beginning is a good example). Also, there should have been more checkpoints.

Sorry, I read your message on what your goals with this level were and I think these platforms are at the core of most of its problems. It's not so much about your usage of them but rather the platforms themselves, as they make every scenario more stressful than it needs to be. I really appreciate the effort, though, and while I didn't have much fun getting shot into spikes or pits from a mistimed button press, pulling the long platforming section across the pit off properly felt pretty great. This level also somewhat suffers from a tendency to put a bit too many enemies on screen at once, especially near the start, and there is a really silly jump near the end which got me jumping into a ceiling spike more often than I want to admit. It's kinda sad how I feel like this stage would've been more fun if only it used the more standard guts lifts or a variety of different platforms as its main focus.

Seriously? Why does this level have such awful level design? I can't even count the amount of times extreme precision and timing was needed in order to get through the obstacles and enemies without taking damage, or even without dying. Not to mention the absolutely intolerable mini-boss and serious lack of checkpoints. It's a darn shame that good ideas and beautiful graphics are greatly overshadowed by the pitiful level design and endless frustration caused by trying to get through the stage.

I wonder how many people will actually attempt to take on the challenges you set them, or just use the weapons to bypass everything. People are going to either love this stage or despise it. I'm leaning more to the latter, but that, admittedly, might be my personal distaste for the gimmick in question.

It is mentioned during the stage whether or not you could make the Tornado Man Platforms fun... well they're certainly competently executed, I'll give you that. Some of the situations they're stuck in though... not so much. Strangely enough, your biggest problem might just be the enemies used and the sheer number of them. The earliest screens of the stage are a bit crazy with the amount of Beaks placed, and you're on Platforms where very little control is given to the player to safely dodge stuff. It's all rather infuriating.

Simply toning down the enemies could've made this more enjoyable. I think the early screens are amongst the worst of the stage, as the later segments start becoming much more tolerable, and better in design. (I even liked the spike crazy segment just past the checkpoint for what it's worth.) It's a crazy backwards difficulty curve. I have to admit, the first time through this I got rather annoyed, and shut off the game for a bit. The second time was a bit better. The opening areas really are rather rubbish compared to the later areas, and start the level on a bit of a sour note. Luckily the rest of the stage and general competence of everything makes up for it.

The Noble Nickels were... sneaky as sin. I think the 2nd one probably should've had an altered or redrawn graphic to make it not so unlikely that it is hidden where it is, because even the 1st one will likely be bypassed the first time you go through the screen, and that one does have a recoloured graphic!

Finally, hi dev-kit boss!