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! "Wilybox 13403" sign dialogue:
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|{{!}} Are you struggling yet? I’ll be happy to help, if you acknowledge me as your intellectual superior.
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|{{!}}'''* No way. I’ll get this myself.'''
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|{{!}}Fine. Be that way. But really, you could stand to learn a little humility and recognize how I’m better than you.
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|{{!}}'''* Fine, you’re a genius.'''
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|{{!}}That’s a decent start, but I’m going to need more superlatives from you later. The Molier here won’t be hitting a wall any time soon. You’d need a weapon that can pierce its shield. But if you’re hoping to get past the wind, well, there’s a limit to how much Break Dash can fight it. You’ll just need to take out the Fan Fiend from a distance. Too bad there’s all these blocks in the way. Maybe you should start with the one you can get rid of.
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|{{!}}'''* I want the token, genius.'''
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|{{!}}You still haven’t given up on those impossible tokens, I see. Well, you really should in this case. You’d need to use a jumping aid, then Water Shield, then another jumping aid. And Ice Wall requires Tornado Blow to reach! So you’d have to get to Tornado Blow without using Water Shield. With those blocks in front, though, you’re not killing the Fan Fiend from the left side. You’d have to get past the wind, and Break Dash can’t quite do it. And what else moves against the wind?
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! Step # !! Room 3 Token Solution #1 - Intended solution:
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|{{!}} 1 {{!!}} Kill the Ben K and pick up its Laser Trident. Use it to destroy the respective block and kill Molier, but DO NOT pick up Break Dash yet.
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|{{!}} 2 {{!!}} Slide through the top opening, then get caught in one of Feeber's bubbles and let it carry you through the tornadoes.
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|{{!}} 3 {{!!}} Take out the Fan Fiend from behind, but DO NOT pick up Tornado Blow yet. Climb up the ladder and destroy the Laser Trident block.
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|{{!}} 4 {{!!}} Pick up Tornado Blow, and go through the passage that Fan Fiend was blocking off earlier. Use the added jump height to remove the Falling Platforms from both upper paths, letting the Curlinger fall closer to you.
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|{{!}} 5 {{!!}} Kill Feeber (if you haven't already) and pick up Water Shield. Go back to the upper path and destroy the respective block.
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|{{!}} 6 {{!!}} Kill Curlinger to pick up Ice Wall, and use it to reach the upper-left passage.
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|{{!}} 7 {{!!}} Drop down the shaft and grab the key.
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|{{!}} 8 {{!!}} Pick up Break Dash, use it to push the "X" block you saw earlier, then slide through to the gate beyond the exit teleporter to grab the token.
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! Step # !! Room 3 Token Solution #2 - Water and Tornado:
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|{{!}} 1 {{!!}} Kill the Ben K and pick up its Laser Trident. Use it to destroy the respective block and kill Molier, but DO NOT pick up Break Dash yet.
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|{{!}} 2 {{!!}} Slide through the top opening, then get caught in one of Feeber's bubbles and let it carry you through the tornadoes.
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|{{!}} 3 {{!!}} Take out the Fan Fiend from behind, but DO NOT pick up Tornado Blow yet. Climb up the ladder and destroy the Laser Trident block.
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|{{!}} 4 {{!!}} Go through the passage that Fan Fiend was blocking off earlier. Kill Feeber and pick up Water Shield.
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|{{!}} 5 {{!!}} Climb the ladder on the left, then fire Water Shield while jumping to hit the respective block.
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|{{!}} 6 {{!!}} Go back to pick up Tornado Blow, the use your increased jump height to reach the upper-left passage.
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|{{!}} 7 {{!!}} Drop down the shaft and grab the key.
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|{{!}} 8 {{!!}} Pick up Break Dash, use it to push the "X" block you saw earlier, then slide through to the gate beyond the exit teleporter to grab the token.
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! Step # !! Room 3 Token Solution #3 - Tornado and Ice:
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|{{!}} 1 {{!!}} Kill the Ben K and pick up its Laser Trident. Use it to destroy the respective block and kill Molier, but DO NOT pick up Break Dash yet.
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|{{!}} 2 {{!!}} Slide through the top opening, then get caught in one of Feeber's bubbles and let it carry you through the tornadoes.
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|{{!}} 3 {{!!}} Take out the Fan Fiend from behind, but DO NOT pick up Tornado Blow yet. Climb up the ladder and destroy the Laser Trident block.
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|{{!}} 4 {{!!}} Pick up Tornado Blow, then go through the passage that Fan Fiend was blocking off earlier. If you kill Feeber, DO NOT pick up its Water Shield.
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|{{!}} 6 {{!!}} Use your increased jump height to reach the Curlinger. Kill it when you can pick up its Ice Wall.
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|{{!}} 7 {{!!}} Place a wall near the starting area where you can slide through the tight opening and grab the key.
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|{{!}} 8 {{!!}} Pick up Break Dash, use it to push the "X" block you saw earlier, then slide through to the gate beyond the exit teleporter to pick up the token.
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Revision as of 20:03, 16 December 2024

72nd: Wily Rooms of Weapons

Make a Good Mega Man Level 3

MaGMML3-72-WilyRoomsOfWeapons.png
"Ben K was too busy spinning his spear and firing Laser Tridents to notice the intruder when he came in."
"Find your way to the exit in all five rooms, and you can escape! But that's unlikely."
―Dr. Wily, through the initial "Wilybox 13400" sign

Wily Rooms of Weapons is the 72nd place entry in Make a Good Mega Man Level 3. A level with a heavy focus on puzzles and problem-solving, it consists of a small corridor with five teleporters, each one leading to a different puzzle room. All of Mega Man's Special Weapons are disabled, and can only be used by collecting power-ups from defeated enemies, with each one dropping a specific weapon. Only one weapon can be used at a time, however, with the challenge centering on collecting each weapon in the proper order and using them optimally to proceed. Completing the level requires solving all five puzzle rooms.

Strategy

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The level's "hub" is a short corridor with five teleporters, a Skip Teleporter, and a boss door that is initially locked. To open it, each of the five puzzle rooms needs to be solved. While each room has a different layout and set of gimmicks, they all share the same roster of enemies, each with a distinct appearance. Though they largely act like their normal selves, some of them have modified behaviour to accomodate the puzzles. Destroying one will cause it to drop a power-up that locks Mega Man into a specific Special Weapon, giving it infinite energy. However, neither the enemies nor the power-ups respawn when defeated, unless the room is restarted.

  • Curlinger functions as it normally does, sliding across the floor and bouncing off any wall it runs into. It drops the Ice Wall when defeated.
  • Ben K will continually spin its reflective spear in one direction, occasionally firing Laser Trident projectiles. It always faces one direction, regardless of Mega Man's current position. It drops the Laser Trident when defeated.
  • Elecit only use their floor-shocking attack, and have a platform attached to their heads that Mega Man can stand on, using them as an elevator. It drops the Thunder Beam when defeated.
  • Feeber functions as it normally does, standing still and firing bubbles that drag Mega Man across the ground if they touch him. It drops the Water Shield when defeated.
  • Molier dashes straight forward, but it will bounce off Reflect Blocks or Destroyable Blocks and change directions (it will still self-destruct if it runs into a regular wall). It is also more durable than regular Moliers, with only piercing weapons being able to inflict damage. It drops the Break Dash when defeated.
  • Fan Fiend will generate green tornado barriers that push Mega Man back if he tries moving through them normally. It drops the Tornado Blow when defeated.
  • Mag Fly flies horizontally and pulls Mega Man up if he remains below it, but will change direction after hitting any sort of solid wall. It drops the Magnetic Shockwave when defeated.
  • Cutting Wheel functions as it normally does, dropping from a levitated position when it senses Mega Man and rolling in that direction. It drops the Spark Chaser when defeated.

Mega Man must figure out the proper order of obtaining and using each weapon to reach each room's exit. Every room also contains a single Trickster Token, which demands a more difficult use of weaponry in order to obtain. If a room becomes unsolvable due to lacking the proper weapon to proceed, Mega Man can return to the hub via the entrance teleporter to reset the room back to its default state; the Retry option on the pause menu provides a similar function. Each teleporter also has a sign from Dr. Wily, to whom Mega Man can "grovel" for hints about the intended solution(s).

Room 1

"Wilybox 13401" sign dialogue:
You don’t have to start with this room, but it would be best if you did. Or have you already come to beg for my help?
* I don’t need hints.
You don’t need to sound so proud of yourself! It’s the first one. It’s not meant to be hard.
* I can’t solve this room at all.
Wait, seriously? You’re stuck here? Are you saying I didn’t even need to bother with the rest of the rooms? You don’t exactly have a lot of choices on what to do with your weapons here. Maybe you should try actually using them?
* I can’t get the token.
Of course you can’t! I designed the room so you could only find a single path forward! You were doomed to fail the moment you took your first weapon!
Step # Room 1 Token Solution:
1 Kill the Curlinger, get its Ice Wall, use it to slide through the elevated opening. (If you want, you use the Mega Buster to destroy the Dust Blocks beyond that opening first.)
2 Destroy the Dust Blocks by placing the Ice Wall inside them. Push it forward to kill the Ben K, and pick up Laser Trident.
3 Destroy the Laser Trident block, then ride the Elecit up to the higher path and hit the switch, turning off the block wall.
4 Go back to the middle path, kill the Feeber and get its Water Shield.
5 Face left while summoning the Water Shield to break the corresponding block. This will lead to Molier killing itself, dropping its Break Dash.
6 Ride Elekit back up to the top path, then use Water Shield to destroy the Mag Fly beyond the Break Dash block.
7 Go back down, kill Elecit, and use its Thunder Beam to destroy the corresponding block. Pick up Break Dash, and use it to break the block beyond the conveyor belt.
8 Pick up Magnetic Shockwave, and use it to the destroy the respective block and the Cutting Wheel behind it (if you didn't already kill it with Water Shield earlier). Then pick up its Spark Chaser, and use it to destroy the respective block and the Fan Fiend creating gusts of wind below.
9 Pick up the Tornado Blow it dropped, and use it to elevate your jump height and grab the Token beyond the exit.

Room 2

"Wilybox 13402" sign dialogue:
How goes it? Have you given up yet? This is only the second room, so I hope not.
* No, and I’m not going to!
It will be so satisfying to see your confidence disappear as the rooms prove to be too much for your simple mind.
* I could use a hint.
It’s not really giving anything away to say that you need Break Dash in order to leave. But the Molier that drops it can’t be harmed by any weapon that can’t pierce its shield. Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to reinforce its stability enough to let it survive a direct collision with a wall. But you’ll never figure out how to make that happen to it.
* How about the token?
The token? Impossible. Sure, you can get the key with Break Dash. But how are you going to get back to the exit? There’s no more MagFly (sic) to carry you, so you’d need to get Ice Wall after Break Dash. But then you couldn’t destroy the block leading to the far wall. So where would the Molier die? I suppose it could hit the blue blocks, but that wouldn’t be easy to accomplish. In theory you could do it if you could step on the button three times. But there’s no way you could manage that. Not unless you could fly.
Step # Room 2 Token Solution:
1 Proceed to the right, and ride Elecit high enough to hit the switch (blue OFF, red ON).
2 Kill the Elekit and pick up its Thunder Beam.
3 Use Thunder Beam from below to destroy the Curlinger's left Dust Block buffer. Be careful NOT to kill Curlinger - let it slide left into the starting area.
4 Destroy the Thunder Beam blocks, and let the Mag Fly carry you over to switch platform.
5 When you're on the switch platform, hit the switch (blue ON, red OFF) and kill the Mag Fly to get Magnetic Shockwave - so long as you do both, the order doesn't matter.
6 Fire Magnetic Shockwave while standing next to the (solid) blue blocks to destroy the Magnetic Shockwave block, letting Molier die against blue block wall.
7 Use the falling green platform to climb up to the switch, and hit it again (blue OFF, red ON).
8 Get Break Dash, destroy the barrier to the exit teleporter, THEN go back to starting area and break the barrier to pick up the key.
9 Kill the Curlinger, which should be just below you, to pick up Ice Wall. Use it to climb back over the gate beyond the exit teleporter to pick up the token.

Room 3

"Wilybox 13403" sign dialogue:
Are you struggling yet? I’ll be happy to help, if you acknowledge me as your intellectual superior.
* No way. I’ll get this myself.
Fine. Be that way. But really, you could stand to learn a little humility and recognize how I’m better than you.
* Fine, you’re a genius.
That’s a decent start, but I’m going to need more superlatives from you later. The Molier here won’t be hitting a wall any time soon. You’d need a weapon that can pierce its shield. But if you’re hoping to get past the wind, well, there’s a limit to how much Break Dash can fight it. You’ll just need to take out the Fan Fiend from a distance. Too bad there’s all these blocks in the way. Maybe you should start with the one you can get rid of.
* I want the token, genius.
You still haven’t given up on those impossible tokens, I see. Well, you really should in this case. You’d need to use a jumping aid, then Water Shield, then another jumping aid. And Ice Wall requires Tornado Blow to reach! So you’d have to get to Tornado Blow without using Water Shield. With those blocks in front, though, you’re not killing the Fan Fiend from the left side. You’d have to get past the wind, and Break Dash can’t quite do it. And what else moves against the wind?
Step # Room 3 Token Solution #1 - Intended solution:
1 Kill the Ben K and pick up its Laser Trident. Use it to destroy the respective block and kill Molier, but DO NOT pick up Break Dash yet.
2 Slide through the top opening, then get caught in one of Feeber's bubbles and let it carry you through the tornadoes.
3 Take out the Fan Fiend from behind, but DO NOT pick up Tornado Blow yet. Climb up the ladder and destroy the Laser Trident block.
4 Pick up Tornado Blow, and go through the passage that Fan Fiend was blocking off earlier. Use the added jump height to remove the Falling Platforms from both upper paths, letting the Curlinger fall closer to you.
5 Kill Feeber (if you haven't already) and pick up Water Shield. Go back to the upper path and destroy the respective block.
6 Kill Curlinger to pick up Ice Wall, and use it to reach the upper-left passage.
7 Drop down the shaft and grab the key.
8 Pick up Break Dash, use it to push the "X" block you saw earlier, then slide through to the gate beyond the exit teleporter to grab the token.
Step # Room 3 Token Solution #2 - Water and Tornado:
1 Kill the Ben K and pick up its Laser Trident. Use it to destroy the respective block and kill Molier, but DO NOT pick up Break Dash yet.
2 Slide through the top opening, then get caught in one of Feeber's bubbles and let it carry you through the tornadoes.
3 Take out the Fan Fiend from behind, but DO NOT pick up Tornado Blow yet. Climb up the ladder and destroy the Laser Trident block.
4 Go through the passage that Fan Fiend was blocking off earlier. Kill Feeber and pick up Water Shield.
5 Climb the ladder on the left, then fire Water Shield while jumping to hit the respective block.
6 Go back to pick up Tornado Blow, the use your increased jump height to reach the upper-left passage.
7 Drop down the shaft and grab the key.
8 Pick up Break Dash, use it to push the "X" block you saw earlier, then slide through to the gate beyond the exit teleporter to grab the token.
Step # Room 3 Token Solution #3 - Tornado and Ice:
1 Kill the Ben K and pick up its Laser Trident. Use it to destroy the respective block and kill Molier, but DO NOT pick up Break Dash yet.
2 Slide through the top opening, then get caught in one of Feeber's bubbles and let it carry you through the tornadoes.
3 Take out the Fan Fiend from behind, but DO NOT pick up Tornado Blow yet. Climb up the ladder and destroy the Laser Trident block.
4 Pick up Tornado Blow, then go through the passage that Fan Fiend was blocking off earlier. If you kill Feeber, DO NOT pick up its Water Shield.
6 Use your increased jump height to reach the Curlinger. Kill it when you can pick up its Ice Wall.
7 Place a wall near the starting area where you can slide through the tight opening and grab the key.
8 Pick up Break Dash, use it to push the "X" block you saw earlier, then slide through to the gate beyond the exit teleporter to pick up the token.



Skip Status

Wily Rooms of Weapons was deemed skippable due to the difficulty of the otherwise mandatory room puzzles, and the large time investment asked of players to complete them. The methods of obtaining the Trickster Tokens in particular was noted to be very difficult.

Judge Comments

Judge Comments
Mick Galbani Mick Galbani Mick Galbani : 58 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
18 / 35 12 / 25 13 / 15 8 / 15 7 / 10



So... this took me a couple of days to clear 100% in my blind run, that... isn't a good thing.

The concept is interesting, don't get me wrong. 5 distinct puzzles revolving around the weapons, and you have to pick and choose the right route to success, and... it's very different! I got more use out of the weapons here than I have anywhere else (because I'm a buster snob and not afraid to admit it), and it was often satisfying to figure out the complete solutions. I particularly appreciate that there's no real death threats, it makes the level into something purely cerebral, which is a very different experience that's occasionally enjoyable.

Unfortunately, Mega Man is not a puzzle game. It is an action game first and foremost, which makes the puzzle aspects very awkward. As stated previously, this took a couple of days for me to clear, longer than any other level in the contest, and I fully expect this will be a bit Marmite (meaning love it or hate it). A single mistake on any solution can force you to restart the entire puzzle, and sometimes the mistakes aren't what you'd expect. In particular, killing Magfly while it's carrying you can trap you in mid-air, a softlock that forces you to restart. Additionally, I've (somehow) scrolled one of the keys off screen at least once, and that third puzzle has a very unorthodox bypass that I can *tell* wasn't intended.

Beyond that, it's all puzzles, with no real break for any action. This is definitely to the level's detriment, as folks aren't playing Mega Man for puzzles. I'd even go so far as to say it doesn't belong in a contest like this.

Although, there is one part that's more akin to Mega Man standard, the Weapon Block boss. It's... certainly an unusual boss, but it has a decent concept, and was a fun fight overall. The only real issue I had was that the last two phases seemed to fire just a smidge too often, but considering they're attached to the more defensive weapons, that's not a significantly important detail. Of course, the boss isn't the focus of the level, it's there to be the ending, first and foremost.

This was a very bold level to make, and to some degree I appreciate it for what it is. However, this time it's a bit *too* bold, to the point it feels very out of place. I won't be surprised if the scores for this level are all over the place.

Shinryu Shinryu Shinryu : 39 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
12 / 35 5 / 25 9 / 15 4 / 15 9 / 10



This is easily one of the most unconventional stages in the whole contest. That in and of itself doesn't automatically make it bad, though. Some variety here and there can go a long way to making your stage stand out. That said, while this level is pretty memorable...I don't think it's for the right reasons.

While I'll commend the attempt here to make a full-on puzzle stage, the execution creates a very mixed to frustrating experience. If you're going through each of the rooms with the goal of just getting to the end, then you probably won't have too much trouble. Most of the solutions are pretty clear-cut, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't have at least a bit of fun figuring out how to get through some of these rooms, especially with the first and second ones. While these moments can be fun, going for the tokens is another matter entirely.

Honestly, the process of getting the tokens in this stage reminds me a little too much of certain point and click adventure game puzzles. You know the ones: The kind that often have very obtuse solutions just to stretch out the game's run-time. You'll often think you have the correct solution, only to suddenly realize it's not right, meaning you need to re-do most (if not, all) of the room again just to give it another try with a different method. Incidentally, this is also what led me to discover a bug with the third room, where using the retry button gives you the key as you warp back in.

The comparisons to old school point and click adventures don't end there, as the tokens share yet another issue with them: Once you know how to do the puzzles, you can probably breeze through them without much of a second thought. To note, I'm not saying I would have preferred a set of randomized puzzles, because that would be even more nightmarish than what we have here already. A stage that had more open-ended puzzles with multiple solutions might have worked out a bit better in this case, but that's just my take on it.

Finally, we have the end boss. It...doesn't really feel well put together, to be honest. The way it fired out enemies as projectiles really screwed with my head at first, because I see those and my first instinct is to shoot them (given the obvious). That's also not to mention the way it fires them out can look incredibly janky at times too. This is especially noticeable when it fires out Ben K's, who have no animation and are flipped sideways for some reason.

Overall, while I get what you're going for here, I can't say I enjoyed it that much. There's some potential in the weapon-based puzzle elements here, that's for sure...but the trial and error nature of it (especially with the tokens) really hurts it in the end.

Pachy Pachy Pachy : 55 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
20 / 35 7 / 25 15 / 15 6 / 15 7 / 10



WROW: The Contest Beneath.

Neat concept for a level. I like me some puzzles, and puzzle-oriented levels are certainly a nice change of pace in a contest setting.

It's nice that the weapons are infinite and the rooms are laid out in a way that you always have a way back to the starting teleporter to reset, with a generous health refill as well. Little touches like that definitely help a lot in the long run with levels that expect the player to be stuck playing for a while.

Unfortunately, the level is very heavy on the trial-and-error side. A lot of the enemies aren't always clear with how they interact with the special weapons.

Examples such as the Ben K's projectile interacting with the switch in Room 4; Room 3's tucked-away-in-the-corner Water Shield block that has no reason to be there (as it doesn't impact the order of how you get the weapons) other than being a mean "gotcha" moment.

Other times it can be uncertain if some of the interactions were intentional or not, like with Room 3's Fan Fiend, it's still possible to kill him with the Water Shield without breaking the Break Dash block; and in Room 5, you can kill the Ben K with the buster if you get really close to him.

There also seems to be an engine-related bug where you can switch back to the Mega Buster with both weapon switch buttons pressed down, even though it is supposed to be disabled, which can get in the way of problem-solving.

With every room other than the first one requiring at least 5 brains, this makes it very taxing to get through the level. Though partially it is due to my tiny monkey brain in general, haha.

It would have probably made the few later head-scratchers less daunting to come into, if the stage had provided some more minor puzzle rooms that can also serve as tutorials for the less obvious puzzle elements that were discussed.

On the aesthetic side of things, the lack of backgrounds in the puzzle rooms make the level feel bland and incomplete. Music choice is good as a non-intrusive thinking music, though the slightly misaligned loop point can be somewhat distracting.

The boss fight is pretty basic and quite silly, which is a good thing after the player has spent much time on those puzzle rooms. It ends the level on a more pleasant note.

Flashman85 Flashman85 Flashman85 : 78 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
27 / 35 19 / 25 15 / 15 11 / 15 6 / 10



I love special weapons. I love puzzles. I am absolutely the target audience here. But as a judge, I need to consider how well this level teaches the basic skills and thought processes required to solve every puzzle. I need to acknowledge an accumulation of little technical issues (eg, objects that look identical but behave differently). I need to recognize that my first playthrough, while thoroughly enjoyable, lasted 60+ minutes--and 5 points of my Fun score depend on how necessary a Skip Teleporter is.

Fortunately, niceties are everywhere, from automatic health refills to a helpful (but verbose) hint system with plenty of character. Rooms can be tackled in any order and easily reset. I'm massively impressed at how the level safeguards against almost everything a player might do to break it. The only thing missing--and it's a big one--is a way of tracking which rooms have been completed.

Pleasantly minimalistic graphics keep the focus on the puzzles. The hub and puzzle rooms have totally appropriate music, though I would've liked a different (and properly looped) track for each room, to keep the atmosphere fresh. I'm bummed that the boss music isn't also in the MM7/8 style.

The puzzles make up for any shortcomings, though, with outstanding use of the assets involved. I like that more complicated solutions are required to reach the tokens. There are some especially great moments with Tornado Blow, Water Shield, Ice Wall, and Feeber bubbles. The boss is passable, but I'm not sure the level even needs one--it's hard to top the satisfaction of solving a series of creative, mind-bending puzzles.

As a judge, I will tell you that I've given you the highest score I can justify based on my interpretation of the rubric. As a player, I will tell you that the best parts make this my favorite level in the contest, and the rubric can take a hike.

ACESpark ACESpark ACESpark : 71 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
25 / 35 18 / 25 13 / 15 7 / 15 8 / 10



Note for anyone playing this stage using the accessibility options I use: Turn them off, for this stage and this stage alone.

Well, this is an interesting case. A Marmitey one, as it were. I can see some people absolutely loving this stage. And I can see some people absolutely hating it with a passion of a thousand suns.

I... I honestly kind of love it, at least the puzzles and concept, but I think it is hurt by the context in which it lies:

Much like everyone who decided they wanted to submit a Metroidvania as part of a contest compilation, this really does feel like the wrong place to put a concept like this.

As a puzzle stage, it's hard to note specific things without giving it all away, but I will praise this:

Your puzzle design is on point, these are really clever and you can clear the standard progress puzzles with intuition, once you understand what each room is asking of you. And getting the Trickster Tokens really requires outside-the-box thinking.

Honestly, I had fun with this, and I really think you have something here.

The boss is pretty unique, too, and a good cap to the end of the stage. An improvement would've been to have smoother transitions between phases - it's very easy to just get bodied by the boss as it switches attack patterns and moves into position, often where you are standing, and thus rather unfairly conks you. Maybe the hit invulnerability should have gone both ways here?

Would've greatly improved an otherwise fun, if simple boss.

If what's here had an entire game experience tailored to it, such as having the stages and rewards disconnected, with the option to expand the weapon set and therefore the puzzles... It would make for a truly unique fan game experience and I think it could go a long way.

Plus, you'd be able to solve the biggest gripe I have with the stage:

Having to do the entire sequence of puzzles in one sitting.

The level asks a lot of a player, and it is a rather draining experience to clear it all. This is not a small gripe: It has implications throughout the level and its pacing, fun factor, and I think severely hurt it.

Finally, it is possible to get yourself soft-locked in a few spots thanks to the Magnet enemy. This is ultimately a minor thing, but the player should be prepared to use the Retry function if needed.

So, this stage's score will probably end up being hurt through the other judges and even myself just due to context, and I honestly suspect that public opinion of the stage will be all over the place, too.

So is it a Good Level? Yes. Yes it is. But this was probably not the place for it, though. I think outside of the context of MaGMML, this could be FANTASTIC.



Make a Good Mega Man Level 3 - Tier 9
Entry Stages
Ninja of the Night • Bold and Trash • Devil Factory • Rockbound Facility • Thermal Tundra • Girder Man Stage • An Underwater Adventure? Wow! • An Ice Cave in Russia • My First Megamix Level uwu xd lmao (dab) • Walk-In Freezer • Wily Rooms of Weapons • Beat the Security System
List of Bosses
Night Air Man • Dolt Man • 28 Devil Cores • Uranus • Thermal Man • Girder Man • Kamegoro Maker • Mooger Man • Gemini Man • Gravity Man • Ice Man • Blue Crash Man, But With 29 Health • Super Block • A Quick Montage
Tier Boss
Pyre Duo
Make a Good Mega Man Level 3
Characters
Mega Man (Costumes) • Dr. Light • Ernest Will/Dr. Wily • Dr. Regal • Hunter Woman • Forge Woman • Presto • Element Man • Cerberus Man • Bass • Proto Man • Magic Man • Sheep Man
Special Weapons
Spark Chaser • Laser Trident • Water Shield • Tornado Blow • Thunder Beam • Magnetic Shockwave • Ice Wall • Break Dash • Rush Coil • Rush Jet • Rush Bike • Magnet Beam
Contest Weapons
Mix Tape • Lantern Flare • Prismatic Laser • Beet Tiller • Rec Can • Banshee Wail • Propeller Vortex • Electro Cable • Track Shoes • Royal Guard • Bait Bobber • Power Line
Entries
A piece of cake, but with aesthetics • Abandoned Mine • Access Corridor Alpha • Air man's ultimate weapon • Akudama Empire Mothership • Alpine Weather Institute • Alraune Woman • An Ice Cave in Russia • An Underwater Adventure? Wow! • Arcade Archives • ArcaneMan -CHAOS TOWER- (CERN HQ Remains) • Assault Hunt • Bakery Man • Ballade's Square of Doom • Banshee Woman • Beat the Security System • Beet Man • Blizzard Resort • Bold and Trash • Boost Man • Bright Man Remix • Cable Woman • Call Me Ishmael • Cassette Man • Chaos Light City • Checkmate • Chemical Industry • Cloud Nine • CrashMan Simulator • Creatively Named Level • Crest Man • Crosshair Aware • Crystal Tower • Cursed Darkness • Cutman's New Warehouse • Cycle Facility • Damp Ruins • Dangan Factory • Dark Castle • Decoy Man • Devil Factory • DISCHARGEEEE • Disobedience of Superior Machines • Doorkman • Dunes of Discharge • Escape From the Wily City • Evil Energy Facility • Explosives Factory • Fairly Unfocused Newcomer's Bosses And Gimmicks Stage • Falling System Core • Fight, Kikkoman! For Everlasting Sauce! • Flamboyant Castle • Foo Man • Forgotten Factory • Frenzy Reactor • Froggy Gravity • Fruit Forest • Geek Man • Get Wild, Get Wet • Gilded Man • Girder Man Stage • Glass Factory • Glitched up Beta • Glitz Woman • Grand Fire Palace • Grassy Plains • Gravaqua2o • Gravity Wumbo • Gross Incandescence • Guitar Man • Hazard Hydro • Hit the Jackpot! • Hornet Man got a new Stage • House of Fun • Hunter Tower • I Hope I Lose: A Grand Tale • Identity Man • Interspatial Compression • Irrigation Irritation • It Was Rated Arr • Judgement Man • Just a Water Level • Lost Caverns of Jungata • Luminous Tower Ascent • Mafia Man's Gambling Palace • Malware Man • Magmatic Panic • mechanical factory • Mediocre Oil Level • Mega Man DEV • Metal Man Steals Other People's Conveyors • Metall Man's Metall Factory • Military Training Grounds • Mine exploration • Mint Candy Matrix • Mirror Woman • My First Megamix Level uwu xd lmao (dab) • Ninja of the Night • Not Delivering On Promises • Nowhere yet everywhere: When the world may loop • Operation: Narcissistic Stratosphere • Outer Reaches • Pick Your Poison • Pipe Man • Plataform Hijinks • Poudrin Man • Propeller Woman in the City in the Clouds • Pumpkin Patches • QuintsMetFactory • Radium Man • Rec Man • Red Mountain • Revenge of Tricastle • Robogarden • Rockbound Facility • Rock Fortress • Ruins of a Forbidden Kingdom • Secluded Terminal • Shape Woman • Skull Sans Megatale 4 • Skull Secret Zone • Sludge Man • Solar Inferno • Somewhere Underground • Sparks and Sockets • Spectrum Science • Stalks, Shoots, and Leaves • Stalling for time • Step on the Gas • Stolen Citadel • Sulfurific Abyss • Superheavy Samurai Big BenK • Suzy Love • Technical Support • Teetering Over the Edge • Temple of Light and Dark • The Actual Rock Man • The Cave Level That Exists • The Haymay Trials • The Heist • The hero as remixed • The Invincible Robot Army! Featuring Shoe Man! • The King's Lair • The Level Equivalent of An Old Man Rambling at You • The Return of Veteran Z • The Stormscraper • The Warped Void • Thermal Tundra • Top Man 2: Spin or Go Home • Tower of Dimentions • Toxic Trouble • Trailblazer • Treading The Wily Sewer System • Trouble in the Fortress • Undead Fortress • Ultimate Level • Underground Runaround • Unguarded Treasure • Up Down All Around • Walk-In Freezer • Water Level? Ice Level? • Weapon Data Center • Western Railway • wet • Wide Joepen • Wily in space (Roll's rescue) • Wily Rooms of Weapons • Wily's Haunted Castle • Wilys Redemption • Wily's Well-fortified Room • Where no met has gone before • Working in the Rain • Worthless Man • X6Meme • Y.M.C.A. • You Don't Know the Drill
Bonus Levels
Space Crusade • Just a Judge Level • Magnum Man • Reel Man • King Man • Static Man
Wily Stadium
Chaos Assault • Cross Armada • The Bronze Yard • Be the Smaller Person • The Level With a Met Pun • Armory Catastrophe • The Greatest Show of All Time
Tier X
Ancient Wastelands Gate • Erm... Watt the Shock! • Smashed Into Pieces • Sparkling Shrimp Stew • Olive Bomber • HI-R@SE BOTANIX • Mega Man in Wonderland • Note Woman • Genie's Alley • Secret to No One • Thermae Man • Detergent Determination • The Quickening 3D • Deserted Sector G-009 • Big Ugly Mess 2: Acting Unwise • Hollow Elysium • Return to Universe City V • Shrine of Nebula
Locations
Victor Heights • Magic Card Casino • Limestone Pagoda • Tier 1 • Tier 2 • Tier 3 • Tier 4 • Tier 5 • Tier 6 • Tier 7 • Tier 8 • Tier 9 • Tier 10 • Tier 11 • Tier 12 • Tier 13 • Tier 14 • Tier 15 • Wily Stadium • Tier X • NEO Pit of Pits
Tier Bosses
Regular Joe • Repair Man • Muscle Juggler • Mad Man • Puzzle Man • Ice Buster • Boki Lamira • Mirage Man • Pyre Duo • Sound Man • Wizard Man • Control Man • Death Man • Punch Donkey
Robot Masters
Aether Man • Alraune Woman • Arcane Man • Assault Man • Banshee Woman • Battery Man • Beet Man • Boost Man • Cable Woman • Cassette Man • Celestial Woman • Decoy Man • Discharge Man • Foo Man • Geek Man • Girder Man • Glitch Woman • Glitz Woman • Guitar Man • Hex Man • Hodenki • Identity Man • Lantern Man • Lunar Woman • Mafia Man • Magnet Man SF • Metall Man • Mirror Woman • Mooger Man • Old Man • Pipe Man • Poudrin Man • Prism Woman • Propeller Woman • Radium Man • Railway Team • Rec Man • Rock Man • Rook Man • Royal Man • Secret Melon • Shape Woman • Shoe Man • Skull Sans • Sludge Man • Sniper Man • Solaire Man • Stall Woman • Thermal Man • Token Woman • Treasure Man • Wood Man Nice • Yamato Man W
Modified Devkit Robot Masters
Air Dab Man • Bakery Man Delta • Bakery Man Omega • Bakery Man Theta • Barrage Man • Bee Man • Blackout Man • Blue Bomber Man • Blue Crash Man, But With 29 Health • Bomber Joe • Captain N Guts Man • Crest Man • DRKMAN4.BAT • Dark Enker • Darker Man • Dolt Man • Fake Cycle • Gilded Man • Glass Man C • Gravity Joe • Gravity Man Supreme • Honey Joan • Judgement Man • Metal Man Overdrive • Metool Woman • Micro Quick Man • Miner Man • Neon Quick Man • Night Air Man • Perfect Solar Man • Pharaoh Man in the Dark • Potted Plant Man • Quick Montage • Rockman No Constancy Quickman • Scorch Man V1 • Spark Man Flip • Splash Woman Overdrive • Superheavy Samurai Big Ben K • Temporal Man • Tempura Man • Top Man Green • Uranus Met • Veteran Z
Entry Bosses
28 Devil Cores • Adult Wish • Atlantis • Atlas • Baby Wish • Battle Windows • Beam Stack • Beam Stack MK2 • Blizzard Brigadiers • Blizzard Behemoth • Blue Power Piston • Bubble Crab • Bucky • Changkeylier • Choker Ohmega • Compress Joe • Copy Robot • Crystal Core • Dark Matter Capsule • Dark Wyvern • Dennis Returns • D.E.V • Digitiger • Dust Devil • Egg Carrier • Floating Point • Fracture • Ghost Light • Grand Tellow • Guts Dozer Neo • Gwyndolin • Heavy • heints • The InDestructiBall • JoJo Joe • Junk Hunk • Kine • Master Hand • Mecha Sonic • Namonaki Robo • Necrozma • Ornstein & Smough • Pipi Condor • Prism Devil • Quint's Met Machine • Red Devil • Sovereign Machine • Super Block • Super Lightning Lord • SYSTEMCORE.EXE • Train Trio • Vanguardroid • Zombie Devil • Z-Tank
Fortress Guardians
Regal Machine • Falcon Rock • Tengen Tophammer • Kouker Quge • Metilda McBossface • Neko Man • Bass • Cerberus Man • Element Man • Forge Woman • Hunter Woman • Presto • Wily Machine SPIRE • Wily Jet
Devkit Bosses
Ice Man • Bomb Man • Fire Man • Air Man • Bubble Man • Quick Man • Flash Man • Heat Man • Wood Man • Picopico-kun • Guts Dozer • Boobeam Trap • Enker • Hard Man • Spark Man • Kamegoro Maker • Dyna Man • Sonic Man • Dust Man • Metall Daddy • Giant Suzy • Punk • Iron Ball • Gyro Man • Stone Man • Dark Man 4 • Ballade • Hunter Type A • Hunter Type B • Blizzard Man • Yamato Man • Rounder II • Power Piston • Mercury • Saturn • Uranus • Grey Devil • Dangan Man • Oil Man • Hornet Man • Mega Mech Shark • Honey Woman • Commando Man • Solar Man
Grey Isles Bosses
Lava Stone Man • King Leonis • Stronger • GEORGE • Small Fry Swarm • Eye of Btd'nhan • Diabolico • Queen of Hearts • Note Woman • Mist Man & Bowl Man • Angler Fish • Onox • Thermae Man • Swaduron • Impresaria • Volt Man the Annihilator • Hard Splash • Shade Spam • Nadir Devil • Top Dummy • Gharial Man • Returning Flash Armor • Great Core • Pillar of Nebula
Bonus Bosses
Dreadnought • Usagi Woman • Hyper Plant Man • Magnum Man • Reel Man • King Man • Namahage Man • Static Man • Slush Man
Arena Bosses
Break Man • Fake Man • Terra • CWU-01P • Yellow Devil • Gamma • Alter Man • Vacant Avatar
Super Bosses
Returning Regular Joe • Nebula Grey • Magic Man • Sheep Man • Ernest Will
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