The Cave Level That Exists

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169th: The Cave Level That Exists

Make a Good Mega Man Level 3

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Welp, it sure does exist!
"Well, this level exists"
―???, dialogue box in the start of the stage

The Cave Level That Exists is the 169th place entry in Make a Good Mega Man Level 3. It is a cave-themed level that uses aesthetics from Cave Story.

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Judge Comments

Judge Comments
Mick Galbani Mick Galbani Mick Galbani : 22 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
6 / 35 2 / 25 0 / 15 5 / 15 9 / 10



...Not gonna lie, this was kinda pointless. A whole lotta nothin' happened, and there's not much to comment on. About the only gameplay worth bringing up at all is the double devkit boss (which is bad, because they tend to overlap like crazy and be a pain to dodge), and the unnecessarily big rooms (which... is still bad, because there's nothing to do except get lost for no reason). Beyond that, only real comments are that the visuals are extremely bland, there's a broken slope, and the music is nice.

Shinryu Shinryu Shinryu : 15 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
2 / 35 1 / 25 1 / 15 2 / 15 9 / 10



Yup, it sure does...

In all seriousness, though, there's not much going on with this level. Many of the room layouts are pretty bare bones, featuring a lot of wide open space that makes most of the enemies a non-issue (even more so when coupled with higher jumps granted by water physics). This is especially true for the Mecha Dragon fight, as you're given 4 whole screens to deal with him.

Beyond those issues, the only other noteworthy thing here is the double boss fight. Unless you're going to set them up so that their movements and attacks play off or complement each-other in some way, fighting two bosses at once is typically more of a pain than anything. Just sticking Bubble Man and Sonic Man in a room together, regardless of how large it is, doesn't really work out.

Pachy Pachy Pachy : 37 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
7 / 35 9 / 25 6 / 15 7 / 15 8 / 10



THE LOUD MUSIC THAT EXISTS.

As well as inconsistent volume. Audio mixing, people!!

Well, this level certainly lives up to its name.

It's a few screens of enemies, and the only thing going on is the Cave Story aesthetics. As far as crossover stages go, this is unfortunately quite barren.

It seems the collisions of the slopes are misaligned, often Mega Man cannot traverse through a set of them without getting stuck in the ground.

Another issue is that sometimes it's difficult to tell if you're out of water or submerged, since the water tiles look very similar to empty tiles at first glance. Also doesn't help that screen transitions would mask the whole "splash" effect when normally going out of water.

I seem to be really bad at fighting Bubble Man on ground, as the fight with him and Sonic Man felt quite unfair with the lava tiles on the ground, limiting mobility. Bubble Man's buster shots are very hard to dodge without the water physics. Meanwhile, Sonic Man will punish you if you don't stand bound to the ground close to him at all times.

The Mecha Dragon, on the other hand, is completely non-asthreatening with so much ground to stand on in its arena, trivializing the fight.

Flashman85 Flashman85 Flashman85 : 35 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
11 / 35 7 / 25 3 / 15 7 / 15 7 / 10



What a title. The confidence you have in your level is exceptional.

Ironically, this barely feels like a cave after the first couple screens. However, it does feel like some DOS games I've played--minimalistic but not altogether unappealing graphics, large free-scrolling areas with no sense of challenge progression, and enemies haphazardly introduced and then forgotten forever.

No bards will sing of this level's clunky layout or lackluster architecture. Not that anyone would be able to hear them over the music, mind you. Volume aside, the relaxed audio is a good fit for the level, and one of the only reasons I enjoyed myself at all.

At the very least, the level needs more background detail (the teleporter statue is a good start), more polished use of collision objects (eg, putting water collision over the topsolid platforms), and some sense of focus beyond "random water enemies sometimes I guess." As a side note, if you're going to use a thematically unrelated Flash Man NPC in a contest where one of the judges is named Flashman, give him dialogue I might actually say. "ZA WARUDO," indeed.

Water physics inexplicably disappear where they're needed most--with low gravity, Sonic Bubble could've been a genuinely fun fight instead of the part where you give up on a no-damage run. Good call on the weapon refill at the gate, though.

I would've loved to battle Mecha Dragon in a submerged area with larger hops between fewer platforms. Even moving the dragon into the center of the arena would be an improvement; all that room to work with, and the dragon hangs out so far offscreen that you're basically tickling its feet with whatever weapon will reach.

Yes, this level certainly does exist. But it needs a better selling point than "it doesn't not exist."

ACESpark ACESpark ACESpark : 23 / 100
Design Fun Creativity Aesthetics Functionality
7 / 35 3 / 25 0 / 15 6 / 15 7 / 10



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Make a Good Mega Man Level 3 - Tier 1
Entry Stages
X6Meme • CrashMan Simulator • Glitched up Beta • You Don't Know the Drill • Not Delivering On Promises • A piece of cake, but with aesthetics • The Cave Level That Exists • Cycle Facility • The Level Equivalent of An Old Man Rambling at You • Ultimate Level
List of Bosses
Mecha Dragon • Crash Man • Flash Man • Sonic Man • Metall Daddy • Rockman No Constancy Quickman • Dust Man • Enker • Bubble Man • Grey Devil • Hornet Man • Bee Man • Old Man • Quint
Tier Boss
Regular Joe
Make a Good Mega Man Level 3
Characters
Mega Man (Costumes) • Dr. Light • Ernest Will/Dr. Wily • Dr. Regal • Hunter Woman • Forge Woman • Presto • Element Man • Cerberus Man • Bass • Proto Man • Magic Man • Sheep Man
Special Weapons
Spark Chaser • Laser Trident • Water Shield • Tornado Blow • Thunder Beam • Magnetic Shockwave • Ice Wall • Break Dash • Rush Coil • Rush Jet • Rush Bike • Magnet Beam
Contest Weapons
Mix Tape • Lantern Flare • Prismatic Laser • Beet Tiller • Rec Can • Banshee Wail • Propeller Vortex • Electro Cable • Track Shoes • Royal Guard • Bait Bobber • Power Line
Entries
A piece of cake, but with aesthetics • Abandoned Mine • Access Corridor Alpha • Air man's ultimate weapon • Akudama Empire Mothership • Alpine Weather Institute • Alraune Woman • An Ice Cave in Russia • An Underwater Adventure? Wow! • Arcade Archives • ArcaneMan -CHAOS TOWER- (CERN HQ Remains) • Assault Hunt • Bakery Man • Ballade's Square of Doom • Banshee Woman • Beat the Security System • Beet Man • Blizzard Resort • Bold and Trash • Boost Man • Bright Man Remix • Cable Woman • Call Me Ishmael • Cassette Man • Chaos Light City • Checkmate • Chemical Industry • Cloud Nine • CrashMan Simulator • Creatively Named Level • Crest Man • Crosshair Aware • Crystal Tower • Cursed Darkness • Cutman's New Warehouse • Cycle Facility • Damp Ruins • Dangan Factory • Dark Castle • Decoy Man • Devil Factory • DISCHARGEEEE • Disobedience of Superior Machines • Doorkman • Dunes of Discharge • Escape From the Wily City • Evil Energy Facility • Explosives Factory • Fairly Unfocused Newcomer's Bosses And Gimmicks Stage • Falling System Core • Fight, Kikkoman! For Everlasting Sauce! • Flamboyant Castle • Foo Man • Forgotten Factory • Frenzy Reactor • Froggy Gravity • Fruit Forest • Geek Man • Get Wild, Get Wet • Gilded Man • Girder Man Stage • Glass Factory • Glitched up Beta • Glitz Woman • Grand Fire Palace • Grassy Plains • Gravaqua2o • Gravity Wumbo • Gross Incandescence • Guitar Man • Hazard Hydro • Hit the Jackpot! • Hornet Man got a new Stage • House of Fun • Hunter Tower • I Hope I Lose: A Grand Tale • Identity Man • Interspatial Compression • Irrigation Irritation • It Was Rated Arr • Judgement Man • Just a Water Level • Lost Caverns of Jungata • Luminous Tower Ascent • Mafia Man's Gambling Palace • Malware Man • Magmatic Panic • mechanical factory • Mediocre Oil Level • Mega Man DEV • Metal Man Steals Other People's Conveyors • Metall Man's Metall Factory • Military Training Grounds • Mine exploration • Mint Candy Matrix • Mirror Woman • My First Megamix Level uwu xd lmao (dab) • Ninja of the Night • Not Delivering On Promises • Nowhere yet everywhere: When the world may loop • Operation: Narcissistic Stratosphere • Outer Reaches • Pick Your Poison • Pipe Man • Plataform Hijinks • Poudrin Man • Propeller Woman in the City in the Clouds • Pumpkin Patches • QuintsMetFactory • Radium Man • Rec Man • Red Mountain • Revenge of Tricastle • Robogarden • Rockbound Facility • Rock Fortress • Ruins of a Forbidden Kingdom • Secluded Terminal • Shape Woman • Skull Sans Megatale 4 • Skull Secret Zone • Sludge Man • Solar Inferno • Somewhere Underground • Sparks and Sockets • Spectrum Science • Stalks, Shoots, and Leaves • Stalling for time • Step on the Gas • Stolen Citadel • Sulfurific Abyss • Superheavy Samurai Big BenK • Suzy Love • Technical Support • Teetering Over the Edge • Temple of Light and Dark • The Actual Rock Man • The Cave Level That Exists • The Haymay Trials • The Heist • The hero as remixed • The Invincible Robot Army! Featuring Shoe Man! • The King's Lair • The Level Equivalent of An Old Man Rambling at You • The Return of Veteran Z • The Stormscraper • The Warped Void • Thermal Tundra • Top Man 2: Spin or Go Home • Tower of Dimentions • Toxic Trouble • Trailblazer • Treading The Wily Sewer System • Trouble in the Fortress • Undead Fortress • Ultimate Level • Underground Runaround • Unguarded Treasure • Up Down All Around • Walk-In Freezer • Water Level? Ice Level? • Weapon Data Center • Western Railway • wet • Wide Joepen • Wily in space (Roll's rescue) • Wily Rooms of Weapons • Wily's Haunted Castle • Wilys Redemption • Wily's Well-fortified Room • Where no met has gone before • Working in the Rain • Worthless Man • X6Meme • Y.M.C.A. • You Don't Know the Drill
Bonus Levels
Space Crusade • Just a Judge Level • Magnum Man • Reel Man • King Man • Static Man
Wily Stadium
Chaos Assault • Cross Armada • The Bronze Yard • Be the Smaller Person • The Level With a Met Pun • Armory Catastrophe • The Greatest Show of All Time
Tier X
Ancient Wastelands Gate • Erm... Watt the Shock! • Smashed Into Pieces • Sparkling Shrimp Stew • Olive Bomber • HI-R@SE BOTANIX • Mega Man in Wonderland • Note Woman • Genie's Alley • Secret to No One • Thermae Man • Detergent Determination • The Quickening 3D • Deserted Sector G-009 • Big Ugly Mess 2: Acting Unwise • Hollow Elysium • Return to Universe City V • Shrine of Nebula
Locations
Victor Heights • Magic Card Casino • Limestone Pagoda • Tier 1 • Tier 2 • Tier 3 • Tier 4 • Tier 5 • Tier 6 • Tier 7 • Tier 8 • Tier 9 • Tier 10 • Tier 11 • Tier 12 • Tier 13 • Tier 14 • Tier 15 • Wily Stadium • Tier X • NEO Pit of Pits
Tier Bosses
Regular Joe • Repair Man • Muscle Juggler • Mad Man • Puzzle Man • Ice Buster • Boki Lamira • Mirage Man • Pyre Duo • Sound Man • Wizard Man • Control Man • Death Man • Punch Donkey
Robot Masters
Aether Man • Alraune Woman • Arcane Man • Assault Man • Banshee Woman • Battery Man • Beet Man • Boost Man • Cable Woman • Cassette Man • Celestial Woman • Decoy Man • Discharge Man • Foo Man • Geek Man • Girder Man • Glitch Woman • Glitz Woman • Guitar Man • Hex Man • Hodenki • Identity Man • Lantern Man • Lunar Woman • Mafia Man • Magnet Man SF • Metall Man • Mirror Woman • Mooger Man • Old Man • Pipe Man • Poudrin Man • Prism Woman • Propeller Woman • Radium Man • Railway Team • Rec Man • Rock Man • Rook Man • Royal Man • Secret Melon • Shape Woman • Shoe Man • Skull Sans • Sludge Man • Sniper Man • Solaire Man • Stall Woman • Thermal Man • Token Woman • Treasure Man • Wood Man Nice • Yamato Man W
Modified Devkit Robot Masters
Air Dab Man • Bakery Man Delta • Bakery Man Omega • Bakery Man Theta • Barrage Man • Bee Man • Blackout Man • Blue Bomber Man • Blue Crash Man, But With 29 Health • Bomber Joe • Captain N Guts Man • Crest Man • DRKMAN4.BAT • Dark Enker • Darker Man • Dolt Man • Fake Cycle • Gilded Man • Glass Man C • Gravity Joe • Gravity Man Supreme • Honey Joan • Judgement Man • Metal Man Overdrive • Metool Woman • Micro Quick Man • Miner Man • Neon Quick Man • Night Air Man • Perfect Solar Man • Pharaoh Man in the Dark • Potted Plant Man • Quick Montage • Rockman No Constancy Quickman • Scorch Man V1 • Spark Man Flip • Splash Woman Overdrive • Superheavy Samurai Big Ben K • Temporal Man • Tempura Man • Top Man Green • Uranus Met • Veteran Z
Entry Bosses
28 Devil Cores • Adult Wish • Atlantis • Atlas • Baby Wish • Battle Windows • Beam Stack • Beam Stack MK2 • Blizzard Brigadiers • Blizzard Behemoth • Blue Power Piston • Bubble Crab • Bucky • Changkeylier • Choker Ohmega • Compress Joe • Copy Robot • Crystal Core • Dark Matter Capsule • Dark Wyvern • Dennis Returns • D.E.V • Digitiger • Dust Devil • Egg Carrier • Floating Point • Fracture • Ghost Light • Grand Tellow • Guts Dozer Neo • Gwyndolin • Heavy • heints • The InDestructiBall • JoJo Joe • Junk Hunk • Kine • Master Hand • Mecha Sonic • Namonaki Robo • Necrozma • Ornstein & Smough • Pipi Condor • Prism Devil • Quint's Met Machine • Red Devil • Sovereign Machine • Super Block • Super Lightning Lord • SYSTEMCORE.EXE • Train Trio • Vanguardroid • Zombie Devil • Z-Tank
Fortress Guardians
Regal Machine • Falcon Rock • Tengen Tophammer • Kouker Quge • Metilda McBossface • Neko Man • Bass • Cerberus Man • Element Man • Forge Woman • Hunter Woman • Presto • Wily Machine SPIRE • Wily Jet
Devkit Bosses
Ice Man • Bomb Man • Fire Man • Air Man • Bubble Man • Quick Man • Flash Man • Heat Man • Wood Man • Picopico-kun • Guts Dozer • Boobeam Trap • Enker • Hard Man • Spark Man • Kamegoro Maker • Dyna Man • Sonic Man • Dust Man • Metall Daddy • Giant Suzy • Punk • Iron Ball • Gyro Man • Stone Man • Dark Man 4 • Ballade • Hunter Type A • Hunter Type B • Blizzard Man • Yamato Man • Rounder II • Power Piston • Mercury • Saturn • Uranus • Grey Devil • Dangan Man • Oil Man • Hornet Man • Mega Mech Shark • Honey Woman • Commando Man • Solar Man
Grey Isles Bosses
Lava Stone Man • King Leonis • Stronger • GEORGE • Small Fry Swarm • Eye of Btd'nhan • Diabolico • Queen of Hearts • Note Woman • Mist Man & Bowl Man • Angler Fish • Onox • Thermae Man • Swaduron • Impresaria • Volt Man the Annihilator • Hard Splash • Shade Spam • Nadir Devil • Top Dummy • Gharial Man • Returning Flash Armor • Great Core • Pillar of Nebula
Bonus Bosses
Dreadnought • Usagi Woman • Hyper Plant Man • Magnum Man • Reel Man • King Man • Namahage Man • Static Man • Slush Man
Arena Bosses
Break Man • Fake Man • Terra • CWU-01P • Yellow Devil • Gamma • Alter Man • Vacant Avatar
Super Bosses
Returning Regular Joe • Nebula Grey • Magic Man • Sheep Man • Ernest Will